Tuesday, February 27, 2007

Trident Forum a success

The Trident Forum last night was a success. I was there to help run the mechanics of it whilst Nick Harvey answered the posts. We finished at 10.30pm, an hour and a half after the scheduled time. So plenty of interest.

Deadline for amendments closed at midday today. It will be interesting to see what has been submitted.

8 comments:

Aaron said...

It felt a bit like the debates on question time where each person takes a position before being questioned and never moves or concedes any points regardless of what is discussed.

Will Nick Harvey be amending his motion as there certainly wasn't any sign he was going to move his position on anything in the motion at all.

If it was just to reassure the membership about what the motion means, it probably fulfills that goal as much as it is possible to do so without actually changing the motion at all, if it was actually a debate about the motion itself it seemed very much a case "you have the right to disagree but you won't persuade me to change my position or a single word of the motion itself".

expriest said...

Hi aaron,

The motion being proposed is from the FPC as a whole. It is not in Nick's gift to amend the motion unilaterally.

It has been open for amendment however for the last month or so to conference reps and local parties, many of whom will have submitted amendments through the proper processes as set out in the conference agenda.

The Federal Conference Committee will select amendments for debate and the Lib Dem conference will decide whether or not it wants to amend the motion at Harrogate on Saturday.

harveyn said...

Aaron

It isn't possible for me to amend the motion - the deadline was weeks ago. The FPC set out this motion after a year of hard work, taking evidence at great length from a huge range of witnesses - covering the full spectrum of views. It is open for party members to vote on amendments in the debate at conference, but in an hour and a half we couldn't deal with each of the issues you mentioned in your e-mail to me. But you made some good points - eg about Israel and Iran - and thse can be incorporated into our thinking and written materials as things go forward.

Nick

The amended version of the motion is what will result from conference.

harveyn said...

Aaron

It isn't possible for me to amend the motion - the deadline was weeks ago. The FPC set out this motion after a year of hard work, taking evidence at great length from a huge range of witnesses - covering the full spectrum of views. It is open for party members to vote on amendments in the debate at conference, but in an hour and a half we couldn't deal with each of the issues you mentioned in your e-mail to me. But you made some good points - eg about Israel and Iran - and thse can be incorporated into our thinking and written materials as things go forward.

Nick

Aaron said...

Thanks Nick, Jonathon,

That explains it then, like I said - it didn't appear that feedback was taken on board, so I'm glad that it's not all set in stone, and that it will be amended.

It is after all a tricky issue, and I'd rather see a strongly worded but well thought out policy than a fudged 'sitting on the fence' kind of thing.

I personally think the Lib Dems have more to gain from breaking political taboos such as the 'requiring a nuclear deterrent' myth, or well crafted policies for the legalisation of drugs and brothels.

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